Woman denied citizenship for being to “submissive”
Faiza M. has lived in France since 2000. She is married to a Frenchman and has had three children in France. She has applied for French citizenship twice and has been denied both times by the French government. The reason she was denied? The French government believes she is too submissive in her marriage.
According to social services, she lives in “total submission” to her husband and male relatives including her father and brother-in-law. Click here to read full article over at the Scotsman News online.
Now, when I first saw the headline: Burka-wearing woman denied citizenship for being ’submissive’, I thought that surely this must be some kind of joke. You know, maybe a case of sensationalizing a headline just to get people to read it but nope, it’s true.
Granted, the submission in question is due to religious beliefs but I feel that it is still pertinent to the lifestyle choices that we make in living D/s. It’s absolutely ridiculous to me that a governing body has the right to tell a woman she is too submissive. Historically, a woman’s role has been forcibly submissive within society up until the sexual revolution. I think that in this case it is more of a religious issue with France not wanting to give citizenship to Muslims and that the woman’s submission is just a scapegoat for them in that regard.
I couldn’t imagine my local government here in America denying me any rights because I was too submissive. If anything, in America woman are denied more for being forced into independence than submission and society plays more of a role in that than the local government does. I’m looked down on for being owned in society. Looked at as less than a human being, an object that people must feel sorry for and try to liberate because I cannot go anywhere or do anything without permission from Conquer4love.
People stare when I go out, like they did today while grocery shopping. My hair up in a pony tail and my collar clearly showing with the metal screws in the back; there is no mistaking my collar for a necklace anymore since he made a new one for me. Family members get irritated with me because I cannot just pick up and do random shopping trips with them or just go out with them in general. One family member has even started asking Conquer4love if I can go out instead of coming to me because it became too much of an issue for me to tell them “I don’t know if I can go, let me check with Conquer4love.” And going through all of this is okay. I made the choice to be submissive to Conquer4love because I trust him with every aspect of my life. I am submissive by nature and being in a D/s relationship with him 24/7 allows me the freedom to be simply who I am.
~surrender4love~
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You can also read that this woman was completely ignorant of the country’s laws, didn’t know she had the right to vote, didn’t know what secularism was, refused to take the veil of when a photo had to be taken for her papers.
I seriously doubt she would have been given the citizenship in the US in that situation.
Greg,
Of course that makes it A-fucking-OK. How dare someone come into another country and another culture and refuse to conform to what society deems as normality.
By that line of thought any person who enters into another country should forsake their own history and culture and conform to whatever bastardization of reality their new home should define as acceptable.
To expect people from other cultures to abandon their history, ancestors and structure just because it does not match up with societies narrow minded fluffy happy feelgood view of what is acceptable is pure ignorance.
By those standards I should remove the collar from the neck of my submissive and release her back into the world that she so despises simply because it does not conform to societies selfish ideals. We should just forsake our happiness and love and family because it does not match with societies ideals of how things should be.
Should we now take away the born citizenship of my girl because it is ME and not society that determines if, when and how she votes? Because it is ME that determines what rights she does or does not have rather then a law created by people who have no personal interest or responsibility into our family, relationship or lives.
The fact that she was sticking to her ideals, history, structure and established culture is no reason to refuse her admittance to the country.
~~conquer4love~~
“Of course that makes it A-fucking-OK. How dare someone come into another country and another culture and refuse to conform to what society deems as normality.
By that line of thought any person who enters into another country should forsake their own history and culture and conform to whatever bastardization of reality their new home should define as acceptable.”
Not all who come into the country no , but those who want to get the nationality. Nobody is talking about deporting her. Tell me then what do you think should be the criteria to become a citizen ? She has lived in this country for 8 years doesn’t know a thing about our laws, couldn’t tell you what secularism is when it’s right in the beginning of our constitution.
People come into a new country, they should adapt to it, the country shouldn’t have to bend over backward and accept everyone and their excentricities.
It so happens that in France secularism or more precisely “laïcité” is the corner stone of our Constitution. She doesn’t like the idea, that’s her problem. In the US when yout think Constitution you think freedom of speech. Here we think laicité.
Why must there exist a “criteria” to join? That is the root of the issue… If someone wants to become a member of the country why then should they have to hop skip and jump to prove they are just as morally acceptable as the others?
Was this woman breaking the laws because of how she lived her life? If she was breaking the law is it a reasonable law in light of a multicultural society?
Intolerance in the guise of “patriotism” is still intolerance. Does how she chooses to live her life directly and negatively place your life in danger or even effect your quality of life?
The flaw in your logic here is because she is not a member of the country of France the rights limited to its citizens don’t apply to her anyways!
She “didn’t know she had the right to vote” because.. uhm.. because she didn’t have the right to vote perhaps? Now if she would have been granted citizenship THEN she would have the right to vote…
~~conquer4love~~